Throughout the week the team at Kotaku and just about everywhere else that writes about games on the Internet have been covering the report on Fox News’ “Live Desk With Martha MacCallum” about the sexual content in “Mass Effect.”
I know that sex scene — at least a version of it. A few weekends ago, under my Xbox 360 control, one Samus Shepard had sex with a bisexual alien woman near the end of my 29 hours and 24 minutes with the game.
Fox News reported that “Mass Effect” shows “full digital nudity and sex.” And to any Fox News viewer who hasn’t played the game, it may well have seemed like it has quite a lot of it. A panelist who participated in a round-table discussion following Fox News’ report described the game as “Luke Skywalker meets ‘Debbie Does Dallas.’” That didn’t quite square with how I remembered the game, nor with Spike TV gaming reporter Geoff Keighley who said, in the segment, that it was wrong. Fox’s MacCallum even read a statement from Microsoft saying that the description of the content was “inaccurate.”
Still, the report was headlined “‘SE’XBOX” and focused on why allegedly inappropriate sexual content was being marketed to kids.
Gamers got angry about this. So did Electronic Arts, new-found owners of “Mass Effect” developer BioWare.
(Note: Responses from both Fox News and EA follow below)
Yesterday, EA vice president of corporate communications Jeff Brown sent a letter to Fox News. The letter, first publicized via Kotaku, calls elements of the Fox News report “flat-out false” and likens the sexual content to the kind of fare that appears on network television. It concludes: “This isn’t a legal threat; it’s an appeal to your sense of fairness. We’re asking FNC to correct the record on Mass Effect.”
I reached out to Brown today to ask what EA’s next step is and he reiterated the sentiment that concluded his letter, adding that the intense Internet response to his later “has been a surprise and a little overwhelming.”
And what does Fox News have to say about this? I contacted their public relations department today to find out if they’d seen the letter and if they had any plans to issue a correction.
In response to my questions, a Fox News spokesperson, who declined to be named, stated, in full: “Fox News Channel has extended several invitations to EA through a company representative to appear on ‘Live Desk With Martha MacCallum’ to discuss ‘Mass Effect’ and the segment which aired on Monday. We have received no response.”
EA says it’s Fox’s turn. Fox says it’s EA’s turn. Who’s going next?
January 24th, 2008 at 6:59 pm
If they’re smart, nobody. Fox News *@@%?* up. A one minute trip to YouTube to see the relevant clip would prove that. They’re not interested in the truth.
In the immortal words of Admiral Akbar, “IT’S A TRAP!”
January 24th, 2008 at 7:29 pm
I’m thinking … EA could withdraw their advertising dollars until they get more favorable consideration. Maybe that’ll get MacCallum fired!
January 24th, 2008 at 7:49 pm
An EA representative appearance on Fox will most likely not be fair and balanced, and do little to change things for the better.
Simply put, a rated M game is not intended for anyone under 17. If underage kids are playing the game, it’s the parent’s fault for not taking control of their children’s gaming habits. It’s not up to Bioware to censor their work and dumb down the sophistication. It’s up to the video game industry to better inform consumers and the media about the ratings system, and it’s up to the retailers and parents to enforce those ratings.
January 24th, 2008 at 10:25 pm
EA needs to press the issue.
The game industry has done plenty of inform the masses. You can’t make people listen. I know fox says you have to look on the back for the rating but that is incorrect. Also like every movie the ratings are on every ad. I’m wondering where the ratings for mags and books and TV shows like Fox LIVE Desk are?
If Mass Effect should be rated AO like the fox commentator says then what kind of rating is Fox News LIVE desk going to require? They’ll need an even higher ranking.
Bottom line they could show every clip in that game on their show without worry about violating any fcc regulations. Their shows are often much more racy and contain way more offensive material.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:16 am
Oh please, it wouldn’t surprise if they had Jack Thompson come on next and talk about how immoral this is. It seems like Fox noise is living up to its namesake and producing what its best at, pure conservative garbage. Video game companies being blamed for the consumers neglect to keep this from their children? That’s rich. We’re talking a seconds long clip of a side of a breast here, not another Hot Coffee.
January 25th, 2008 at 1:07 am
So Fox flat out lies as a way to lure Jeff Brown on their show in hopes of increasing the number of viewers? What next, are they going to make chicken noises and hope that helps? Why should he help them get paid after their slanderous comments. Fox should either get some real news or cancel Martha MacCalum’s show.
January 25th, 2008 at 2:10 am
EA is under no compulsion to appear on a show to give basic facts about their video game. If FOXNews wanted to discuss Mass Effect then that was their job fact check the allegations, not EA’s. What kind of BS response is that?
“Oh, we don’t check facts, we just report allegations because it’s easier…”
FOXNews is pathetic.
January 25th, 2008 at 3:01 am
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January 25th, 2008 at 3:11 am
Fox News is a joke.. so you can say anything you want with no impunity? Well, then I’ll say Fox News is funded by Al Quaeda..
January 25th, 2008 at 3:50 am
I agree with the majority here, EA shouldn’t have to show up on a Fox show.
They asked for an apology, not a debate, and walking onto a Fox News set is like walking into a pool of hungry sharks. I doubt EA, or anyone for that matter, is stupid enough to get into that situation.
January 25th, 2008 at 6:28 am
EA should not only snub Fox’s request to appear on the network (an obvious ratings & attention grab) but they should 1) remove all advertising from IGN network sites (a property of News Corp. as is Fox News) and also 2) sue for libel. This is highly irresponsible “journalism” from Fox News and it requires an immediate apology, not EA having to come on a show to explain itself.
January 25th, 2008 at 7:07 am
Fox News should stfu and concentrate on reporting actual news that people want to hear, not this load of crap.
January 25th, 2008 at 9:21 am
Fox: lies lies lies lies lies
EA: Retract your lies
Fox: We invited you to hear our lies and you didn’t show, our lies are your fault.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:16 pm
EA would be foolish to send a representative to appear on that “News” show. Geoff Keighley was given only seconds to talk, and basically ignored, I doubt the EA rep would be given better treatment.
Kudos to EA for having balls
January 25th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
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January 25th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
MacCallum even said in that report from microsoft that the parental controls are there on the console. Then she brushed it off mostly because she and so many other people expect Microsoft and all of these other companies who put out hardware to “babysit” people’s kids. I mean, its not like parents, once they have a 360, have to go out and buy a 200 dollar game restricting program for the system. Its all right there. So i totally agree with prior statements of it falling on the parents. I know if I didnt want my 8 year old playing Leisure Suit Larry, I would put up a password lock on my system. =/
January 25th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
T. Walker: That was a good one.. lol..
Maybe from now on, anything that can be purchased from store, even toasters, will have child-protection feature included, and activated by default. It’ll ask: “Are you at least 15 yrs old?” before letting anyone toast a bread…
But I do think game consoles can come with parental control on. By default it’ll only play games rated E, or they’ll have to enter passcode. Then those Foxtards can **** off.
And shouldn’t Microsoft do something too? Fox basically named their console “SE’XBOX’.” All parents will see XBOX and go ‘Oh, that’s that SE’XBOX’. Shoo!” Think EA and Microsoft should do something here… Game industry is not some plush toy to @*!& around with!
January 25th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
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January 25th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
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January 25th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
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January 25th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
This article is extremely one-sided here. If anyone knows about Fox News, it is “fair and balanced” like they say.
Simply they just take an issue in current events and they have one person on each side debate the issue, the possitives and negatives and so forth.
Geoff Keighley defended his issue and came across as a winner proving the game to be suitable for all ages.
Fox News didnt side with anyone here, they let one expert in each field debate it and leaves it for the view to chose what is right or wrong. Seriously this is a non-issue. Everyone that gets uptight about this issue needs to relax and view the clip neutrally without a bias going into it, youll come out noticing that Keighley represents your views and they were shown on TV. The other woman looked like an overconcerned lunatic.
January 25th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
Why cannot adults play adult games? This game has a mature rating. A child’s XBox can have games with a block for any ratings that their parents do not approve of. Therefore games should be treated the same as movies. It is ALL about ratings for the news media.
January 25th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
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January 25th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
Nate,
Your an idiot! So I guess the round table panel & the host were not one sided! WATCH THE VIDEO IDIOT, BUT THIS TIME PAY ATTENTION! DUMBASS!!!
January 25th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
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Also make sure mark 1 star reviews as helpful and the rest as not helpful.
January 25th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Nate, you’re kidding, right? Obviously Geoff won the debate because he was pretty much the only one who had the facts on their side, but that’s not the point. The point is that he was marginalized, given very little chance to speak, forced to play defense the whole time, and otherwise made to look like the one who was misrepresenting facts in the eyes of those who don’t know any better.
To say Fox didn’t side with anyone is just laughable. They came across as very anti-video game here, offering pretty much only a token defense of them just to give the perception that they’re offering both viewpoints.
January 25th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
To Nate - Do you work for fox news? Because it sounds like it, and seriously…they don’t call it “Faux News” for nothing. Fox is anything but “Fair and balanced” and for them to run a full fledged article and news cast based on some extremely wild allegations made by some politician. The fact that the most research ONE PERSON did on fox (and it wasn’t even the person slandering the game that did the research) was simply going to the website and clicking on a few trailers…I’m sorry, but if that’s their idea of “research” then you can bet they’ve lost credibility with me (not that they really had any to begin with).
Even the people on the panel after the little back and forth were a bunch of ill informed close minded individuals. To say they don’t want a game in their house because of “Sexual Content” is ludicrous, in this case, because there is FAR less content in this game then there is in the cartoons that kids watch on a day to day basis.
January 25th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
My god, Nate, you’re no better than either side.
It’s quite obvious that you didn’t watch the report, which really makes you no better than Martha MacCallum or Cooper Lawrence (or the unnamed “panel”) having not even played the game.
You’re not adding anything constructive here.
January 25th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
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January 25th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
She has a call in show too. Here is the number if anybody is interested: 1-877-6-COOPER
January 25th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Invited to debate? Why would anyone want to go on that biased network to debate something that clearly doesn’t need debating.
“KIDS WILL GO PLAY THEIR DADS VIDEO GAME”.
No they won’t you stupid cow, they’ll go look at hot tits and ass on their PC.
Morons.
January 25th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
I don’t understand why EA cares so much about what fox says about this game. It is giving them free publicity. If I were them I would try to drag this controversy out as long as possible to get more publicity, and therefore sell more games. Do you think all the bad publicity that Grand Theft Auto got hurt their sales? If anything it boosted sales especially among teens. There is no such thing as bad publicity. EA can’t buy publicity like this.
January 25th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
a) Mature Gaming for Mature Adults, that said,
b) Parents, play the games you buy for or know your kids play.
And understand what your child searchs for online. It’s called communication and you should do it everyday. Help your child make better choices. Sometimes the “fobidden apple” can be shown to be nothing more than a “dressed up” apple if you remove the aura surrounding it.
c) Do NOT allow government or other organization to “sanitize” EVERYTHING that is produced. This will result in “cookie cutter” games and inhibits creativity.
d) If you don’t like a game, don’t play it or don’t watch it. That is called freedom of choice, something we have and should not trade for feeling comfortable.
My only question, not having played the game, is does this scene in the game tie-in with the plot line. Is there a purpose to it?
January 25th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
nothing to say… its just great what people can do for their publicity… right miss “i have been browsing the game site for few minutes this afternoon” or something like that
January 25th, 2008 at 5:26 pm
%*$#@$~%% fox news!
January 25th, 2008 at 5:40 pm
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January 25th, 2008 at 5:44 pm
Hello!?! This is Fox “News” we are talking about. Do they ever get anything right? Why do 40% of their viewers think that WMDs were found in Iraq and Saddam was behind 9-11? They aren’t journalism, they are a sad experiment by a powerful foreigner to alter the US of A.
January 25th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
Fox news is very ignorant when it comes to video games. First i would like to say one thing and that is that i have played and completed mass effect. The game is playable for 30 + hours the love scene you see that is very near to the end of the game is and i mean the actually love scene where they start to have intercourse is only about 30 seconds long the only way to see is you to engage in alot of conversation with that certain person which means that person will start to fall in love with your character only then will this scene happen. Also this romance plot does have something to do with the main story line because bioware is making two more mass effect games where you play as the same character in each them and the story in each depends on the decisions you made in the game before. This game has one of the best plot in game i have ever seen each main character has rich background. and also the is NO FULL DIGITAL NUDITY IN THIS GAME SO DO NOT EVER BELIEVE WHAT PEOPLE THAT HAVE NOT PLAYED THE SAYS ABOUT IT THAT JUST MAKES THEM SEEM VERY IGNORANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 25th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
No surprise.
Fox will say whatever it can to get attention.
Attention = Money
Just ask them how Fox Business channel is going.. lolol..
I feel bad for people who listen to Fox News, or Lou Dobbs, or Glenn Beck, and even Anne Coulter who at least admits it’s an act.
January 26th, 2008 at 12:17 am
Nate, the irony of suggesting this article here is one-sided probably went right over your head. The difference between this article and Faux’s is Mtv’s is based on facts. Faux’s isn’t.
A round table discussion with four conservatives that have never played the game is “Fair and Balanced”? The bit on FauxNews had a point, the round table is used to hit home the point, this is nothing new. Notice how the only person who had ANY experience with the game was outnumbered 6 to 1 and had about 5-10 seconds to fight Faux’s fabrications.
FauxNews is a right-wing propaganda station.
Any questions - here’s a website for ya;
http://www.newshounds.us/
January 26th, 2008 at 2:39 am
OK Rav, first of all dont make this a liberal - concervative issue because its not. left wing liberals complain about video game violence just as much as right wing concervatives or evangelicals or whoever else.
secondly, you are saying he was outnumbered 6-1?? I really believe it was just him vs. the other speaker for violence and sex one on one with a moderator.
You hate on Fox News because it isnt a one-sided news anchor feeding you information straight forward. The issues get debated EQUALLY! Especially with politics this year and that was a studied fact with how much time is devoted to each side (http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2007/12/27/study-fox-most-fair-balanced-thus-far-prez-campaign)
That is a link which will lead you to the study.
Third, in a lot of cases popular conservatives just tend to be better debaters than popular liberals. Thats a reason why conservative radio is so much more popular and successful long term than left wing radio.
Get off of your liberal pedestal. Theres a reason Democrats like Hillary Clinton and others are scared to do interviews on Fox, because they will ask direct questions and demand answers your candidates dont have.
Back to the subject, the first time I watched the segment, I agreed with Geoff because he delivered a stronger argument. So I dont understand why everyone is so upset. I guess its just because you will hate Fox News regardless of what they do.
January 26th, 2008 at 3:59 am
Mass Effect comes nowhere near GTA’s “Hot Coffee” mod. The game is rated “M” which means it is only sold to 17+ year olds, in most places ONLY 18+ year olds. Children can’t be shielded forever, not by a long shot in today’s world. All those who wish to try should start by throwing your television, radio, books, magazines, and computer in the trash.
The news is for informing the public on things that matter, rather than broadcasting biased opinions. The news itself reports on $#~#, murder, drugs, abuse, and war. I still don’t see a “TV MA” rating flash across the screen.
Before taking on anything to do with today’s media world, make sure you research it properly. I’m sure clicking a few links on a site does not qualify you to have an opinion.
January 26th, 2008 at 6:27 am
What a discussion this is…
I’m a 38 man from the Netherlands that played this game. Mass Effect is nothing more than a Movie-like game wich allows you to make several decisions while talking to all kinds of characters in the game. Then there is the third person part of the game in wich you must engage the enemy… that’s all!
It’s a clever game that allows you to have the feeling you’re the director of a science-fiction movie…
Now, concerning the sex scene: this scene doesnt have to happen unless you choose to (through the dialogues you can build up to this event)
It’s actually similar to a normal scene we often see in action movies. You know what I mean, when the main character falls in love with the girl and they get intimate…
It lasts about two minutes and it isn’t revealing at all. Actually it’s beautifuly done and it’s repectfull (not raunchy at all)…
I agree this game is for 17+ persons. It is the responsability of the childrens parents to make sure they don’t play this game if they’re too young…
Why attack the game or the publisher?
When a man kills another man with a gun… do we attack the manufacturer of that gun? That man is responsible for his cruel crime not the maker of the gun…
And indeed what about the News on tv? Children are exposed to the most horrible violence (real violence) every day!!!
And I can’t understand how it’s possible that the people that are judging this game, have actually never played the game… it also explains why the information they’re spreading is incorrect!!!
We have the responsability to protect our children but believe me, Mass Efect is not a danger to these kids… there are bigger issues to be adressed… why not start there?
Enric
p.s.
excuse me for my typing errors
January 26th, 2008 at 10:59 am
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January 26th, 2008 at 12:43 pm
Having beaten Mass Effect twice, I can say quite honestly that Fox’s allegations and the words of their “expert” are as contradictory as humanely possible. Next time, before Fox decides to label a system “Sexbox” and a game “raunchy and a way for MALE teens to satisfy their sexual apetites, they should at least have an “expert” who has played the game.
January 26th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
I’m a 14-year-old freshman from Long Island. Yesterday I wanted to buy the game (I look like im 18) and they wouldn’t sell it to me. I tried getting my mom to buy it and the fat girl working at gamestop told my mom there was a “perverse” scene in it. The thing that struck me about that is because before I got my mom to try to buy it i asked her strait out “did u ever play this game?” She responded no. So my mom wouldnt buy if for me and I went out and got my 18-year-old brother to try to buy it. That fat do do brain still wouldn’ sell it to my brother. I’m just wondering what that “perverse” scene is actualy about. Thanks alot.
-Pat
January 26th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
The “pervase” scene can be completely avoided if you avoid the dialogue, all it is is a 5 second screen where you see a side clip of an intimate scene. It’s very similar to hose seen on prime time television shows and Is in no way “pervase” tell the fat lady at the gamestop to find a new job before her flappy mouth drives away even more customers. (if your parents still refuse to purchase mass effect for you I would recommend trying out bio-shock)
January 26th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
When you are 17 you can go see a movie with both sexes fully naked the game is marked M you have to be 17 to buy it so just goes again to the parents who dont check and then complain because of their mistake. I have played through Mass Effect 2 so far and it is possibly one of the best stories in a game that ive played in years. all the scene shows is just legs and arms there is not any side boob really or full view of a but you can see more in a girl wearing a swim suit then you did in that scene.
January 26th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
Nate
I would love for you to point out ONE EXAMPLE in ANY of my posts where I’m shown as a “liberal” or on a “liberal pedestal”.
ONE EXAMPLE. I beg of you. Make a point. Use a fact to support your argument. Lets see it. You can post it here or email me at whatever97@hotmail.com. Thanks.
Advice: think for a long, long while before you try to answer or post your response.
***Remember what the original story is about, remember what people are discussing. Try to figure out how/why this would be a liberal/conservative argument in the first place. You seem to keep trying to suggest FauxNews, which is a known conservative news channel, is “fair and balanced”. If its so “fair and balanced” why do YOU keep mentioning “liberals”? If FauxNews is so “fair and balanced”, why am I a “liberal” on a “pedestal” for simply questioning the Mass Effect story??? This food for thought may go straight over your head but I hope you see my point.***
Back to the topic at hand:
Why do we need 6 conservative opinions on a fabricated story? Please explain how that is “fair and balanced”. Where in the world of journalism does a fabricated story about video games even need a conservative/liberal angle? Please explain. You may need to use 2 hands to count this out, Nate, but Martha MacCallum (conservative #1) was supporting these fabrications and she is a known conservative. If she’s a “journalist” what was she doing airing this story in the first place without any research? Then you had the lady who has no exposure to the game (#2). AFTER THE “STORY” there is a round-table of conservatives - I counted 4 (4+2=6, check a calculator to double-check, thanks) - all of them hitting home the fabricated story. Remember, after #5 you run out of fingers on one hand and have to use the other to count. If you don’t feel comfortable using both hands, try counting with a friend.
A fabricated story in the first place is bad journalism - what is there to debate? Do four conservatives in a round table discussion to perpetuate a fabricated story really come across as “fair and balanced”? A conservative pundit posing as a journalist, with a fabricated story, hosting a conservative lady whose NEVER PLAYED THE GAME. And she wraps up the piece to HIT HOME the false story with another 4 conservatives who have NEVER PLAYED THE GAME. “Fair and balanced”? Ironically enough, for such bad “journalism” Martha has managed to get a bigger story out of this than she could have hoped. Sadly it may end with a lawsuit by EA.
Just a reminder: this story was about FauxNews airing a fabricated story, okay? You said I was trying to do so - I read my posts, can’t find any support for your claims, I didn’t even mention any non-conservative channels. And I can’t even tell if you’re joking and just trying to act like an in-denial, Kool-Aid drinkin’ conservative.
First off: I don’t like FauxNews because it isn’t a news channel. Period. You can find a history of bad journalism on Faux. How you react to your findings may say quite a bit about yourself. You read up and Faux’s fabrications and right-wing leanings and choose to continue to take it seriously, that is your issue and not my problem. Deal with it. If they’re feeding you what you want to hear, eat it up. But any ideas outside of Faux’s little universe may be hard to deal with, especially if you’re only equipped with lies and spin to debate them with. (Look at your posts, for example: you aren’t capable of discussing the actual story, simply in knee-jerk defense mode over a channel, over Rupert Murdoch’s conservative ideals and political leanings. Now you understand why some people are called “sheep”?)
I watch Faux all the time simply out of sick curiosity. Maybe I need to watch Bill O’Reilly or Hannity’s America to get that “fair and balanced” feeling, eh? Nothing says “journalism” like Bill O’Reilly calling every other liberal he disagrees with a “pinhead”. Heck, actually Bill O’s show must be “fair and balanced”, that’s why he has Dennis Miller on, to provide a counterpoint - LOL! You know who Rupert Murdoch even is? The one reason Democrats won’t go on Faux because its a right-wing propaganda channel. Why lower to their level. Consider the “Mass Effect” fabrications.
Have you seen Faux’s two attempts at a comedy show? BOTH conservative - Red Eye’s first show being introduced by the very “fair and balanced” Ann Coulter and the chubby Pill Popper Guy who tried to slander Michael J. Fox’s illness.
Sorry but you come across as a knee-jerk apologist for Faux - makes you come across as quite ignorant. Its like you’re eating dog poop but saying you don’t care because other people eat dog poop too. You know its poop but continue to eat it. And it seems you like the taste. Good for you.
Your arguments for why I don’t like Faux aren’t well supported, especially considering you don’t know me. Watch the documentary “Outfoxed” and check out newshounds.us to see the problems with FauxNews. Have you been watching Faux’s coverage of the presidential race? Is it really “fair and balanced” to keep having Ann Coulter and other conservative pundits spread their hate on Rupert Murdoch’s propaganda channel? The entire Faux line-up outside of Combs is conservative. John “Heath Ledger’s death is funny” Gibson, Fred Barnes, Neil Cavuto, the ENTIRE round-table of talking heads on Sunday. And again, I find it hard to believe you actually watch FauxNews if you’re saying its “fair and balanced” - again I will point back to the presidential election coverage. It has been anything but “fair and balanced”.
The premise that there is “liberal” news is a great idea if you’re a republican. The whole topic of “liberal media” is a completely different can of worms. There are tons of books on the subject. Again, the premise that if something doesn’t support the right-wing agenda is “left-wing” is false. You calling me “liberal” with no evidence is one good example. If a journalist is covering the current economy it seems to be real journalism (talk to economists) versus Faux’s journalism (a round-table of apologists, ahem, Neil Cavuto, ahem). Its a convenient argument: any bad news regarding President Bush can be give another side (spin). Economy in the dumps? Must be the liberal media. Bush’s approval is low? Must be the liberal media.
Watch “Outfoxed” before you try to get involved in any more discussions about FauxNews. PLEASE.